Engaging the Church Suffering

April 30, 2024 (Edward J. Barr) – In earlier articles we explored the dangers that the demonic world poses to God’s children. In our current series on God’s holy army, we examined the roles of Mary, the angels, and the saints. We now explore the impact the Church Suffering can have on our spiritual journey, the life of the church, and the world. 

Church teaching is clear that once we die and have our personal judgement by the Lord our fate is sealed – heaven, hell, or purgatory.  For those in purgatory, otherwise known as the Church Suffering, they can do nothing to change their eternal destination.  The good news is it will be heaven. However, they have not reached the beatific vision yet.  We can help. This is why the Church Militant must pray for the Church Suffering, because the poor souls can no longer help themselves. But does it follow that the souls in purgatory can pray for those of us still on earth?

The Church has not ruled definitively on whether souls in purgatory can pray for souls in the Church Militant.  This is a matter of theological speculation and many of the powerhouses of the faith have weighed in on the issue. St. Thomas Aquinas believed that souls in purgatory “are not in a condition to pray” for those on earth. However, other theologians believe it is possible. St. Robert Bellarmine thought the souls in purgatory were more than capable of praying for us.  He reasoned that as they are closer to God and although they are not aware of our circumstances (as may be the Church Triumphant), they may pray for us here on earth. St. Alphonsus Liguori also believed souls in purgatory can intercede for members of the Church Militant.

Pope Pius IX thought that the souls in purgatory had interceded for him to improve his memory.  St. Padre Pio is probably the most known saint of recent times who has advocated for souls in purgatory praying for souls still in the world.  His theological opinion has some similarities to others, such as St. Robert Bellarmine, in that he believes that God in His goodness can make our prayers known to the Church Suffering, and that they in charity can pray for us.

Another consideration comes from St. Paul.  He writes, “For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor present things, nor future things, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:38-39) This unity in Christ is best expressed by Catholic teaching on the Communion of Saints.  The Catholic Encyclopedia states that “The communion of saints is the spiritual solidarity which binds together the faithful on earth, the souls in purgatory, and the saints in heaven in the organic unity of the same mystical body under Christ its head, and in a constant interchange of supernatural offices.”

If the Churches Triumphant, Suffering, and Militant are all part of the body of Christ they cannot be separated.  Love of each other in a necessary part of the mutual exchange of gifts between members of His body.  The Church teaches that souls from the Church Triumphant can and do intercede for those of us on earth.  Souls in the Church Suffering are guaranteed the beatific vision and in some way are ‘closer’ to heaven that we are on earth.  Their salvation is guaranteed; ours is not.  That God would allow intercession for us from those who are destined for heaven yet are still on their journey makes some sense.  Yet it is theological speculation.

The purgatory museum in Rome offers some evidence that souls from the Church Suffering can reach out to us.  It is a highly recommended though seldom visited destination.  While this collection focuses more on Church Suffering to Church Militant communications, it does confirm that God allows interaction between the two communities.  Another good resource that promotes devotion to the Holy Souls and also contains vignettes on devout interaction is “Day by Day for the Holy Souls in Purgatory.”  It is a simple reminder not to forget the “forgotten church.”  To those who remember them, it is a pius thought that they will remember us.

Edward J Barr, Esq. is a Catechist and public speaker based in Florida.  He earned a Master of Theology degree from the Augustine Institute. His first novel, The Gray Apostle: Mission of the Messiah is available on AmazonBarnes & Noble, and other bookstores. The second in the series, The Gray Apostle: Roman Justice, was just released and is available everywhere fine books are sold. Mr. Barr is a contributing writer for the Roma Locuta Est blog (www.RomaLocutaEst.com)


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  1. Jesus explains Purgatory to Catholic Mystic Luisa Piccarreta. In Jesus’ near future ‘thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven, those living in the Divine Will, on free-willed earth, will bilocation space and time, to suffer for, and assist those in Purgatory.

    “Jesus told Luisa how the Saints hope for someone to re-do their earthly actions – their lives in the Divine Will.”

    “The Saints themselves… ardently wait for their sister to substitute their acts- holy in the human order, but not in the divine order. They pray that I quickly let the creature enter into this divine ambience, so that all their actions may be substituted with the Divine Will, and with the imprint of the Eternal One. I have done it for everyone, now I want you to do it for everyone. (See chapter 16) (February 13th 1919)”

    “Jesus told Luisa how everything is contained in the Divine Will: the life and actions of his own Humanity, and everyone’s life and actions which have been perfected by him. Since God exists outside of time – everything in the Divine Will exists outside of time. So in effect, we say that it exists in the present. For example, think of last Saturday and realize that all your actions – whatever you did – still exist in the Divine Will.”

    Quote below is from: “Luisa Piccarreta and the Divine Will – Teachings of Jesus”, by Susanne James, published 2020

    Catholic Mystic Luisa Piccaretta (1865-1947) was the fifth person to live in the Divine will after Adam, Eve, Mary and Jesus. Luisa lived united to the Holy Trinity in the ‘Divine Will’ for sixty years on free willed earth. Luisa had the hidden stigmata and consumed no food, living only on the Eucharist. Jesus would physically bilocate Luisa to anywhere on earth, or anywhere in the multiverse. All the actions of everyone since Adam to the future last person on earth ever to be born, exist outside of physical time, in the present, in the Divine Will.  Jesus can also bilocate people living in the Divine Will anywhere in physical time. While Jesus was bilocating Luisa, her physical body lay in a death like state, in her bed on earth. 

    In Jesus’ near future “thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven”, all State of Grace Catholics living in Jesus’ future Revelation 21 “New Jerusalem, will have the capability to have Jesus bilocate them into any Reality in physical, multiverse, space and physical time. We will all be capable of helping the Saints in Purgatory, “They pray that I quickly let the creature enter into this divine ambience, so that all their actions may be substituted with the Divine Will, and with the imprint of the Eternal One.” Talk about future Catholics, living in the Divine Will, helping those in purgatory!

    ‘Luisa Piccarreta and the ‘Divine Will’ – Teachings of Jesus’ by Susanne James copyright 2020.

    “All her adult life Luisa manifested particular strange symptoms – which confused the clergy in the early years. What happened was that at night she would go into a death-like state. Completely rigid and immovable. In the morning she could not rouse herself, not until she was blessed by a priest. Luisa’s early writings give an account of this unusual experience. She was not asleep, in fact she slept very little.”

    “Luisa tells us how her soul would sometimes leave her body at night, and she enjoyed blissful freedom when Jesus took her around the universe. He used these occasions for teaching her (she does not describe the universe). Luisa also had various mystical experiences at night, including visits to Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory. She would consistently experience the Passion of Jesus – in limited forms, for as mentioned she was a victim soul. Such people have a very rewarding relationship with Jesus, and their suffering is balanced by wonderful blessings. (page 22)”

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